Summary: In a Dateline NBC report on Rev. Rick Warren, after
noting Warren's support for California's Proposition 8, co-host
Ann Curry reported that "Warren says he joined the fray out of a
concern that if Proposition 8 wasn't passed, pastors would lose
their right to preach about the biblical definition of marriage."
Curry then added, "But many constitutional experts say that fear
was totally unfounded, and gay rights leaders saw Warren's stance
as an infringement on their civil rights." Curry had uncritically
reported the previous day that Warren "was worried that this
Proposition 8 would prevent him from getting up on the pulpit and
speaking out against same-sex marriage."
During her December 19 Dateline NBC report on Rev. Rick
Warren, after noting Warren's support for California's
Proposition 8 -- which amended the state constitution to ban
same-sex marriage -- co-host Ann Curry reported that "Warren says
he joined the fray out of a concern that if Proposition 8 wasn't
passed, pastors would lose their right to preach about the
biblical definition of marriage." Curry then added, "But many
constitutional experts say that fear was totally unfounded, and
gay rights leaders saw Warren's stance as an infringement on
their civil rights." As Media Matters for America documented,
while previewing her interview with Warren the day before, Curry
uncritically reported that Warren "was worried that this
Proposition 8 would prevent him from getting up on the pulpit and
speaking out against same-sex marriage," echoing the falsehood
that had Proposition 8 not passed, members of the clergy could
have been restricted in what they could say in the pulpit and
could have been forced to perform same-sex marriages.
In fact, Proposition 8 and the California Supreme Court
decision it sought to overturn had nothing to do with members of
the clergy, and did not address their actions or speech in any
way. As Media Matters has documented, the California Supreme
Court itself noted the irrelevance of its decision to clergy,
saying in the majority opinion that "no religion will be required
to change its policies or practices with regard to same-sex
couples, and no religious officiant will be required to solemnize
a marriage in contravention of his or her religious beliefs."
CURRY: Pastor Rick Warren has always take pains to stay above
political battles -- that is, until just before this past
election, when he took a stand on a bitterly fought ballot
initiative banning gay marriage.
WARREN: And is with great honor and great humility and respect
--
CURRY: Earlier this month at a World AIDS Day event, Pastor
Rick Warren gave President Bush a medal for his groundbreaking
efforts to end the AIDS epidemic in Africa.
And President-elect Obama appeared via satellite at the same
conference.
WARREN: A lot has been done, but there's a lot more to be
done.
CURRY: In fact, many AIDS activists say Warren's efforts to
fight the disease have been exemplary.
WARREN: I want to alleviate suffering as much as I possibly
can.
CURRY: He has given away millions -- 90 percent of his income,
he says -- in a worldwide effort to help end disease and poverty
and to promote reconciliation.
WARREN: Good. How are you?
CURRY: But in the last two months, some of the goodwill Warren
has generated across the social spectrum has been put to the
test.
WARREN: I hope you're praying about your vote. One of the
propositions --
CURRY: In an Internet video released just before Election Day,
Warren urged his followers to vote for California's Proposition
8, which aimed to reverse a ruling by the California Supreme
Court allowing same-sex marriage.
WARREN: If you believe what the Bible says about marriage, you
need to support Proposition 8.
CURRY: Warren says he joined the fray out of a concern that if
Proposition 8 wasn't passed, pastors would lose their right to
preach about the biblical definition of marriage. But many
constitutional experts say that fear was totally unfounded, and
gay rights leaders saw Warren's stance as an infringement on
their civil rights.
UNIDENTIFIED PROTESTER: Equal rights.
CURRY: After Proposition 8 passed, same-sex marriage
supporters converged on the entrance to Warren's Saddleback
Church.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The church is against it -- that's fine,
that's their -- but they shouldn't be taking over state issues,
and that's what they are doing right now.
CURRY: And this week, when President-elect Obama named Warren
to deliver the opening prayer at the inauguration, the
controversy flared up again. The president of the gay rights
group, Human Rights Campaign, wrote a letter to Obama saying
Warren's selection "tarnished the view that gay, lesbian,
bisexual and transgender Americans have a place at your
table."
DAVID SMITH (Human Rights Campaign): This selection is so
disrespectful of a constituency which the president-elect has
embraced and has included in his campaign.
CURRY: Some people in the gay community wonder why you
supported Prop 8 --
WARREN: Sure, sure.
CURRY: Why you supported taking away their right to love each
other --
WARREN: Sure.
CURRY: -- in marriage.
WARREN: Well, that's --
CURRY: In marriage.
WARREN: Yeah. Well, I'm not taking away their right to love
each other --
CURRY: In marriage.
WARREN: I am opposed to the redefinition of marriage. First
place -- to me, it was a free speech issue, foremost of all.
First place, I don't know any church in America that's done more
to help the gay community, particularly with AIDS, than
Saddleback.
CURRY: And in fact, gay people will say that is true.
WARREN: Yeah. And my wife and I have given millions of dollars
to help people --
CURRY: -- which is why they are so hurt.
WARREN: Yeah.
CURRY: Why many gay people are so hurt.
WARREN: Yeah. Yeah.
CURRY: -- because of their faith and reverence for what you
have done in this issue.
WARREN: Yeah.