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Tucker Carlson Lied: Nationalized health
care IS cheaper than US
Media Matters
October 27, 2005
During a discussion about health care on the October 21 broadcast of HBO's
Real Time with Bill Maher, MSNBC host Tucker Carlson falsely claimed that less
is spent on health care in the United States, as a percentage of gross domestic
product (GDP), than in countries with nationalized health care. In fact, the
percentage of GDP spent on health is higher in the United States than in
countries with government-provided health care, according to the Organisation
for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) and the U.S. Department of
Health and Human Services (HHS).
Citing the recent United Auto Workers union concessions given to automaker
General Motors Corp. (GM) and demanded by Delphi Corp., the nation's largest
auto parts supplier, due in part to escalating health care costs for employees,
host Bill Maher questioned if this country would be "better off" if Sen.
Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) had succeeded in creating the universal health
care system she supported a decade ago while serving as first lady. Carlson
replied: "Here's a simple question: In countries that have
government-administered health care, does health care take a higher percent of
GDP or a lower percentage of GDP than in the United States?" He asserted that
it was a "fact" that health care costs are "more expensive in countries in
which the government administers health care."
In fact, according to statistics compiled by the OECD -- an international
organization of more than 30 countries, including the United States, that
"shar[e] a commitment to democratic government and the market economy" --
health care costs consumed a higher percentage of GDP in the U.S. than any
other member country. In 2003, health care costs in the United States amounted
to 15 percent of GDP. Comparatively, countries with nationalized health care
such as Canada, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Switzerland, and the United
Kingdom spent a lower percentage of GDP on health costs. The United Kingdom and
Spain each expended 7.7 percent of GDP on health care, while Italy and Canada
spent 8.4 percent and 9.9 percent of GDP, respectively. Germany, France, and
Switzerland expended 11.1 percent, 10.1 percent, and 11.5 percent of GDP,
respectively.
Similarly, a September 2002 fact sheet prepared by the Agency for Healthcare
Research and Quality at HHS noted that "[t]he United States spends a larger
share of its gross domestic product (GDP) on health care than any other major
industrialized country."
From the October 21 broadcast of HBO's Real Time with Bill Maher:
MAHER: This week, it was a big story to people who actually work
for a living that GM and Delphi both made concessions to unions, or unions made
concessions to them rather, because both -- Delphi was going bankrupt and said
it's health care costs. General Motors, $1,500 of every car goes to health care
costs. Wouldn't this country have been better off if 12 years ago when Hillary
Clinton was trying to put forth a health care program, even if it wasn't
perfect, instead of trying to destroy her, which is what the right wing did,
couldn't they have worked with her? Couldn't we have had a program by now? I
mean, please, the Clintons were not mad socialists. And when it came to
actually the pesky work of doing government stuff, they were better at it than
the Bush administration.
CARLSON: Here's a simple question: In countries that have
government-administered health care, does health care take a higher percent of
GDP or a lower percent of GDP than the United States? Your complaint is health
care is so expensive that GM is causing its workers to pay more for it, right?
It's too expensive in this country. It is more expensive in countries in which
the government administers health care. That's just a fact.
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