Was Pat Robertson's Call For Assassination
Of A Foreign Leader A Crime?
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Had He Been a Democrat, He'd Probably Be Hiring A Criminal Attorney
John Dean
August 26, 2005
On Monday, August 22, the Chairman of the Christian Broadcast Network,
Marion "Pat" Robertson, proclaimed, on his 700 Club television show, that
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez should be murdered.
More specifically, Robertson said, "You know, I don't know about this
doctrine of assassination," referring to the American policy since the
Presidency of Gerald Ford against assassination of foreign leaders, "but if he
[Chavez] thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought
to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war, and I
don't think any oil shipments will stop."
"We have the ability to take him out," Robertson continued, "and I think the
time has come that we exercise that ability. We don't need another $200 billion
war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier
to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over
with."
Robertson found himself in the middle of a media firestorm. He initially
denied he'd called for Chavez to be killed, and claimed he'd been
misinterpreted, but in an age of digital recording, Robertson could not
flip-flop his way out of his own statement. He said what he said.
By Wednesday, Robertson was backing down:
"I didn't say 'assassination.' I said our special forces should 'take him
out,'" Robertson claimed on his Wednesday show. "'Take him out' could be a
number of things including kidnapping."
No one bought that explanation, either. So Robertson quietly posted a half
apology on his website. It is only a half apology because it is clear he really
does not mean to apologize, but rather, still seeks to rationalize and justify
his dastardly comment.
From the moment I heard Robertson's remark, on the radio, I thought of the
federal criminal statutes prohibiting such threats. Do they apply?
For me, the answer is yes. Indeed, had these comments been made by a Dan
Rather, a Bill Moyers, or Jesse Jackson, it is not difficult to imagine some
conservative prosecutor taking a passing look at these laws - as, say, Pat
Robertson might read them -- and saying, "Let's prosecute."
The Broad Federal "Threat Attempt" Prohibition Vis-à-vis
Foreign Leaders
Examine first, if you will, the broad prohibition against threatening or
intimidating foreign officials, which is a misdemeanor offense. This is found
in Title 18 of the United States Code, Section 112(b), which states: "Whoever
willfully -- (1) … threatens … a foreign official …, [or]
(2) attempts to… threaten … a foreign official … shall be
fined under this titled or imprisoned not more than six months, or both."
The text of this misdemeanor statute plainly applies: No one can doubt that
Robertson "attempted" to threaten President Chavez.
Yet the statute was written to protect foreign officials visiting the United
States - not those in their homelands. Does that make a difference?
It would likely be the precedent of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth
Circuit that would answer that question; the Fourth Circuit includes Virginia
where Robertson made the statement. And typically, the Fourth Circuit, in
interpreting statutes does not look to the intent of Congress; it focuses on
statutory language instead.
And in a case involving Robertson, to focus on language would only be poetic
justice:
Robertson, is the strictest of strict constructionists, a man who believes
judges (and prosecutors) should enforce the law exactly as written. He said as
much in his 2004 book, Courting Disaster: How the Supreme Court Is Usurping The
Power of Congress and the People.
Still, since the applicability of this misdemeanor statute is debatable, I
will focus on the felony statute instead.
The Federal Threat Statute: Fines and Prison For Threats to Kidnap
or Injure
It is a federal felony to use instruments of interstate or foreign commerce
to threaten other people. The statute is clear, and simple. Title 18 of the
United States Code, Section 875(c), states: "Whoever transmits in interstate or
foreign commerce any communication containing any threat to kidnap any person
or any threat to injure the person of another, shall be fined under this title
or imprisoned not more than five years, or both."
The interstate or foreign commerce element is plainly satisfied by
Robertson's statements. Robertson's 700 Club is listed as broadcasting in
thirty-nine states and the District of Columbia, not to mention ABC Family
Channel satellites which cover not only the United States but several foreign
countries as well. In addition, the program was sent around the world via the
Internet.
But did Robertson's communication "contain" a "threat" to "kidnap" or
"injure" Chavez?
First, Robertson said he wanted to assassinate President Chavez. His threat
to "take him out," especially when combined with the explanation that this
would be cheaper than war, was clearly a threat to kill.
Then, Robertson said he was only talking about kidnapping Chavez. Under the
federal statute, a threat to "kidnap" is expressly covered.
As simple and clear as this statute may be, the federal circuit courts have
been divided when reading it. But the conservative Fourth Circuit, where
Robertson made his statement, is rather clear on its reading of the law.
Does Robertson's Threat Count As A "True Threat"? The Applicable Fourth
Circuit Precedents Suggest It Does
If Robertson himself were a judge (or prosecutor) reading this statue --
based on my reading of his book about how judges and justice should interpret
the law -- he would be in a heap of trouble. But how would the statute likely
be read in the Fourth Circuit, where a prosecution of Robertson would
occur?
Under that Circuit's precedent, the question would be whether Robertson's
threat was a "true threat." Of course, on third reflection, Robertson said it
was not. But others have been prosecuted notwithstanding retractions, and later
reflections on intemperate threats.
Here is how the Fourth Circuit -- as it explained in the Draby case -- views
threats under this statute: "Whether a communication in fact contains a true
threat is determined by the interpretation of a reasonable recipient [meaning,
the person to whom the threat was directed] familiar with the context of the
communication."
This is an objective standard, under which the court looks at the totality
of the circumstances surrounding the communications, rather than simply looking
to the subjective intent of the speaker, or the subjective feelings of the
recipient. So even if Robertson did not "mean" to make a threat, and even if
Chavez did not "feel threatened," that is not the end of the story.
In one Fourth Circuit case, the defendant "asked if [the person threatened]
knew who Jeffrey Dahlmer [sic] was." Then the defendant added that, "he didn't
eat his victims, like Jeffrey Dahlmer; [sic] that he just killed them by
blowing them up." This defendant's conviction for this threat was upheld.
In another Fourth Circuit ruling, the defendant, an unhappy taxpayer, was
convicted for saying, to an IRS Agent, that "in all honesty, I can smile at you
and blow your brains out"; that "once I come through there, anybody that tries
to stop me, I'm going to treat them just like they were a cockroach"; and, that
"unless I can throw somebody through a damn window, I'm just not going to feel
good."
Viewed in the context, and taking into account the totality of the
circumstances, it was anything but clear that any of these threats were
anything more than angry tough talk. The same could be said of Robertson's
threats. Yet in both these cases, the Fourth Circuit upheld the defendant's
conviction, deeming the "true threat" evidence sufficient to do so.
For me, this make Robertson's threats a very close question. President
Chavez publicly brushed Robertson's threats off, for obvious diplomatic
reasons, yet I suspect a little inquiry would uncover that the Venezuelan
President privately he has taken extra precautions, and his security people
have beefed up his protection. Robertson has Christian soldiers everywhere. Who
knows what some misguided missionary might do?
If you have not seen the Robertson threat, view it yourself and decide.
Robertson's manner, his choice to return to the subject repeatedly in his
discourse, and the seriousness with which he stated the threat, all strike me
as leading strongly to the conclusion that this was a true threat. Only media
pressure partially backed him off. And his "apology" is anything but a
retraction.
Will Robertson be investigated or prosecuted by federal authorities? Will he
be called before Congress? Will the President, or the Secretary of State,
publicly chastise Robertson? Are those three silly questions about a man who
controls millions of Republican votes from Christian conservatives?
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